Party Nominations

As the party nominations take place nationwide, preliminary reports point towards massive logistic problems, with some names not appearing in the lists, mixup of ballot papers to wrong centers, and a whole host of other omissions and errors.

This is hardly surprising and also serves as a great reminder to this current crop of politicians that we need to move from this perennial ad-hoc, last minute method of conducting business, to an ordered, time conscious and well planned and structured method of conducting business.

Many had forewarned that this eleventh hour exercise, was bound to experience massive technical and logistic hitches. Its pointless at this time to state “I told you so”. The fallouts that were being avoided are still taking place and will continue to take place. So nothing has really been saved.

Regrettably the thugs and hooligans always get their way and thrive on chaos.

Twitter is currently abuzz with numerous defections by key personalities from their preferred party choices to alternatives, although at the moment the media is only reporting the fallouts in CORD affiliated parties.

Lets keep each other posted as events unfold.

So far, this exercise is living to the mediocrity anticipated.

So far the twitter reports from the two main parties are almost identical

ODM twitter buzz and TNA twitter buzz

The URP twitter buzz is a little confusing. There appears to be a growing silent revolt in RV against URP. Its probably due to the relationship with TNA but we will soon find out.

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121 comments on “Party Nominations

  1. What is this now? Does it mean parties can still conduct primaries in areas with disputed results and IEBC will still accept the new names after repeat primaries?

    “She said the order stated that the IEBC returning officer be restrained from clearing the TNA candidate until fresh primaries supervised by an independent agency is done.”

    http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/Tribunal-blocks-TNA-aspirants-nomination-/-/1631868/1681026/-/egqcrg/-/index.html

    • Now that Ongoro has rejected nomination for Ruaraka and Kajwangs name is not in the list of nominees to the IBEC does this mean that ODM will not have a candidate in this constituency?

      She did well by refusing to take something that was not hers but attacking Wanjiru saying that she is an accademic dwarf is truly wrong. Its the ODM NEB that she should have an issue with not Wanjiru.

      Supposing Wanjiru turns down her nomination too then what happens?

      • mzee,

        Technically ODM will have no candidate for Ruaraka. ODM cannot substitute any name now. I think Ongoro has a right to be mad and she has done the right thing by not trying to demand odm senate ticket because as long as ODM followed its own rules to nominate Wanjiru IEBC has no interest in who won the party elections. That is not IEBC’s job. If the Kajwang’ guy appeals to the IEBC Tribunal he and ODM have to show that ODM flaunted their own rules and therefore are now handing the ticket to Kajwang’.

        Personally I think Ongoro would have been whipped by Sonko mercilessly in the Senate seat. Wanjiru have a better chance and ODM as a party actually has the option to make the move they made but they should only have done so in consultation and negotiation with all the stakeholders in the deal including Mr.Kajwang.

      • Adongo,
        It is true that Ongoro had no chance against Sonko but such people bank on party euphoria and Railas backing to win. Wanjiru might just beat Sonko because they are both streetwise.

        Having said that Ongoro herself was unopposed for the senate position and there is nothing to say that she would have beaten Wanjiru in the nominations.

        That she has refused the nomination is OK. But she is not helping the party by giving Jubilee a walk over.

        Don’t be surprised if she rescinds her decision.

      • ODM shot itself in the foot with this. first its true, ongoro cannot beat sonko for nairobi senate, wanjiru stands a better chance due to her people appeal which is not ethnic but the fact that she is a regular face both due to JIAM, as well as her rather high profile appearance in news for whatever reason. this matches sonko’s antics.

        am sure with wider consultation and deeper understanding, ongoro would have been better taken of, but this will hurt wanjiru because ongoro’s support base may feel slighted.

        nevertheless, i think wanjiru for senate is a great choice, and she needs all the help she can get. so who is CORD/ODM women’s rep for nairobi?

      • An ordinary teacher becomes billionaire…she might have a steep learning curve when it comes to parliamentary communication…

        It’s amazing that all Sonkos, Mwaus, Wambois and other watu wa unga are trooping into the House (Senate or Parliament).

    • mzee,

      You are right about Ms Ongoro. She may have to reconsider as they say. On the whole ODM should not have arbitrarily just switched names without negotiating with everybody. It is just plain wrong but people are getting themselves into knots about these party elections.

      Here in Canada we have two big parties namely the Conservative Party of Canada (they are terrible) and Liberal Party of Canada (they are less terrible) and a smaller party known as the NDP( they are progressive). Nobody cares how they nominate their candidates and they all do them through Riding (constituency) Associations which consist of a few hundred people.

      Once they nominate their candidates then all of us and every other Canadian are free to vote for whoever they feel will do a good job. If they had to have general election format for party nominations they would have to spend billions just for party nominations.

      In Kenya being the political copy cats that we are there is an attempt to model our party nominations along the lines of the US primaries and even that we really have no clue how it works. In the US candidates actually negotiate and the primaries are different from state to state. In 2008 when Ms Clinton was sure she would beat Obama hands down they decided to skip California and Pen State and then Ms Clinton realised in the middle of the race that Obama was beating her she tried to change the deal. Some weird organ of the Democratic Party had to be assembled and it came up in support of Obama’s proposals. Did Clinton’s supporters burn buildings? Hell no. Did they threaten to join the Republicans? Absolutely not.

      What I think is important is that once parties agree to specific nomination formats and have those ingrained in their party constitutions they have an obligation to stick to them. That has not happened. Now we have a mess and to some it is the end of the world as we know it and very quickly reduce everything to tribes. That country can be scary sometimes but I guess it is the only one we have. Oh dear!

  2. the IEBC has published the party nomination lists – of course pending any dispute arising

    http://www.iebc.or.ke/index.php/resources/downloads/category/provisional-list-of-political-parties-nominiees

    Notes:

    1. most parties have been listed in the final update

    2. the party Alliance for Real Change is a sham and should be deregistered since it appears to serve exclusively only one community contrary to political party rules, ditto MDP

    3. note on the TNA list scroll over to the bottom of page 5 see how they classify / zone the country. how can people aspiring to govern the whole country classify a region as “hostile” what does that mean?

    4. have no idea what the ‘eck TIP party list is about, its way shabby – no offense, but these guys should style up

    5. after all the saseni, sijui hoja alliance, and what not, Party of Action’s Raphael Tuju is not anywhere in their nominations list (what a waste of time)

    • as we come to the final moments of the party primaries i want to say that this whole exercise has been extremely poorly done and in very bad taste

      we must apportion blame and commend any good effort or gesture in our final audit of the process and hopefully list some valuable lessons learned

      a) the first is that parliament must never be allowed to set the timeframes for this exercise and its is best set out by an independent body such as IEBC, but of course working jointly with a body comprising political party representatives (NEB of the parties) only then can realistic timelines be scheduled and met

      b) evidently party hopping will continue to be a culture in Kenya that cannot be wished away. we must therefore stop pretending it doesn’t happen and factor it into these nominations – give people one week to shop for at least one other party – put a cap on how many times a candidate can be rejected e.g three times and allow them a week. for as long as they are allowed to sneak around, we will never have order.

      the IEBC is squarely to blame for the next two issues
      c) member registration – the IEBC just take names and IDs as presented to them without first providing a means for the proposed names to confirm. it is sheer mediocrity, absurd and abuse of a persons freedom of choice, to register someone without asking them, then requiring that the only way they remove themselves is by resigning or writing a protest note. SIGNATURES please. when a political party presents a name/ID the IEBC should declare these as proposals and only confirm them when a person logs in and authenticates electronically by provision of a security key, or walks into their offices and physically verifies. its incumbent upon the political parties to provide the IEBC how to get a hold of their party members to be registered.

      d) again the problem of SIGNATURES – there is no way of telling that the persons being nominated for various posts have volunteered themselves to these posts. each candidate must append their signature to those lists implying concurrence with the party and the individual for the post, otherwise one candidate may be in several parties or worse may have moved on to another party but get disqualified when their name appears in two party lists

      if in the two instances above, the IEBC and parties do not want to use signatures for verification then there must be a period where IEBC publishes names with the condition that unverified names will be dropped from the register.

      of course some folks are exempt from these signature requirements since since we know signed documents have little meaning for them (ask mudavadi for details)

      e) finally independent bodies must carry out the primaries after which they will declare the results. political parties may then nominate the candidates or substitute according to their party rules and all in good time

      its disappointing to see how a simple straight exercise turns into a nightmare breeding violence all due to gross inefficiency and short shortsightedness. we need to force these leaders to style up.

  3. Mary Wambui protests TNA move to deny her Othaya ticket

    The disputed Othaya TNA nomination is headed to court after businesswoman Mary Wambui said she was denied the party’s ticket despite claiming victory.

    Ms Wambui said the TNA certificate was issued to her rival in the primaries, Gichuki Mugambi, after he lodged a complaint with the party’s dispute resolution team.

    At a news conference at her Lavington home in Nairobi, Ms Wambui blamed powerful forces in government for alleged interference saying the certificate was taken away from her unfairly……….

    More here: http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/-/1631868/1672602/-/p8vh3kz/-/index.html

      • Einstein, Tnk, et al.,

        Wapi media outrage and 24-hour coverage for this democracy TNA styro…

        Mary Wambui wins the race – even being congratulated by Mama Ngina:


        That’s only until the dark forces woke up:

        Maybe Jimmy Kibaki and Gichuki were sent by:

        .

      • have just played those video clips,

        wow, TNA is actually a state house / Kibaki project, contrary to popular view that kibaki is not supportive of uhuru

        jimmy repeatedly states that he asks his father in the presence of uhuru whom he supports for othaya

        and from which he (kibaki) declares his support for the other fellow

      • Yes job there is no hourly coverage of the Mary Wambui saga and of course the cyber warriors for party democracy have some sort of fatigue. It is all very understandable.

        But this Mary Wambui thing has some very complicating issues. On the surface it may look like this is just Lucy working with the mashetani forces at State House not to let her co-wife be the face of Othaya. But I think Mary Wambui has a lot of scams behind her that may end up at the doors of State House and once she becomes an M.P she is fair game. Kibaki might want to keep that door closed. Uhuru has his work cut out for him here. The mashetanis of state house may allow Uhuru to go hang himself by pissing on Mudavadi, his life line, but this could be personal for Kibaki. Let the game continue

      • hehehe job

        and this is only one case because it has a high profile candidate. remember there is kipipiri, kikuyu and oter counties where there is simmering discontent.

        the only reason these other cases are not being mentioned is because the media is keeping a tight lid on them and that most of the support base is under a cloud of confusion because the TNA hq is totally and digitially mute. in a few days it wiill come out in the open

        am also curious that URP is also dead silent

        in a few days IEBC will have no option but to publish the comprehensive lists. we can wait

      • Folks,

        Now this is truly frightening. I know since it does not involve Raila and the ODM some predictable cold feet is deader than those at City Mortuary. This raises fundamental questions on how the state is controlling and or plans to control the electoral process.

        The fact that a DC, a DO and even an OCPD have been shifted and shafted for failing to control and electoral result is a scary reminder of the 2007 Kibaki debacle. This is very dangerous staff. This happened within a day of State House being upset about Wambui being nominated to ran for Othaya. I would care less for Wambui but surely even the OCPD is still under State House! Where is our newly appointed IG of the Kenyan police. May be caught up with the Mr. Waiganjo mad drama.

        What does this portend for the GE in March. Where is the outrage.

        This is what I am talking about.

        http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/DC-and-two-DOs-moved-after-hotly-contested-primaries-/-/1631868/1672842/-/s5igfkz/-/index.html

  4. mudavadi on KTN live to name running mate

    dang … the guys is campaigning for the running mate so much, aiishhh

    Jeremiah Kioni – kudo’s to phil for catching this already yesterday

    at least now we know why mudavadi spent time in nyeri – it was pre-ordained

    ===

    wow, very eloquent speeches by salat and gideon moi

    these KANU guys are super fluent

    ==

    its time for real politik

    waiting anxiously for the final lists

  5. @Nalinali

    Unsuccessful aspirant ADIPO KUOME is an idiot.

    He thinks he will achieve anything hiring youth and feeding them alcohol to go as far as burning Raila’s effigy? That is tantamount to an abomination. Raila had absolutely nothing to do with these nominations and Franklin Bett and team are operating independently.

    Another neanderthal is FRED AMAYO who was beaten at the ballot by rookie Ken Okoth as the candidate set to inherit Raila’s Kibera (now Kibra seat).

    After his loss, Amayo sponsored mobs to barricade nearby Orange House in Kilimani forcing NEB and party workers to flee from the building. Amayo has caused so much mayhem in Kibera today using the same youth. For the first time since PEV, Kibera is swarming with GSU officers attacking innocent residents and jounarlists who make the mistake of filming their abuses. Just because Amayo lost an election and refuses to concede defeat. Let alone petitioning the Appeals Board for review. Thank God we didnt nominate thugs like Amayo to parliament.

    As far as ODM NEB is concerned, only Siaya Governor, Gem MP as well as the counties of Kisumu, Migori and Homa Bay remain unresolved. The rest of the country has been done superbly well and peacefully. The media is focused on Kisumu and Siaya, simply because Raila’s siblings are running and there is a dispute.

    And in those three unresolved counties, its because thugs were sent to destroy voting material. Twice! In my view, the residents of these three counties have handed back to the party the right to issue direct nominations because ODM must field candidates for these positions. ODM underwent very expensive exercise printing emergency ballots and hiring two choppers to deliver them to the respective counties, only for thugs to set them ablaze.

    Adipo is not just uncouth, he is also uncultured and a non-democrat. Which election do people declare themselves winners? Even Oburu never did that. Ruth never did that. Midiwo never did that. So who does Adipo and Amayo think they are?

    The NEB has now got lots of ground to disqualify and expel several aspirants from the party. Their behavior has been disgraceful to say the least. Most of these candidates have connections to TNA and thats why you see our CHina Gang thread is today receiving so many hits. Political problems in Nyanza started way before these elections.

    Its a deep conspiracy. So deep so that it warranted NTV and KTN to relocated their major tallying centres to Siaya and Kisumu during the nomination period from where they kept on “breaking news” with unverfied and concocted results. This is precisely what has fueled problems in these counties because people are seeing media announcing rresults yet on the ground they have not voted because the Adipos of this work have refused to come and join civilised citizens.

    We shall see just how far the pint sized Adipo will go. And we are waiting for him

    • phil,

      I agree with you on the Adipo guy. Personally I don’t care about burning Raila’s effigy. He is a politician and that is part of the stock in trade in that line of business. What Adipo has no right to do is to hire hooligans to cause mayhem. I watched the Kendu Bay demo on behalf of Mr. Adipo and what stuck me was a clip of a small group of some whacky kids shouting TNA TNA TNA and then another young man walks to them and pushes them off gently from the cameras telling them “oromo, oromo”, meaning “it is enough”. Obviously they were being told they had done their job. We know what the job was don’t we?

      Of course KTN which should be renamed Kisumu Fitina (Telivision) News was beaming this to us as some breaking news. The anchor didn’t even seem to have a clue what he was talking about jumping from one thing to the next. If these are the kind of news coverage we are going to have in the actual elections we are in trouble. News outlets should never be in the business of manufacturing mayhem. Go behind the scenes and expose what is going on. I understand that is difficult when news outlets have their own agenda to push. sawa.

      Now first thing tomorrow morning Bett and his team should announce complete results in the disputed counties whoever they are and let manufacturers of mayhem know that ODM will disqualify them. In fact even those whose names may have been submitted to the IEBC whom ODM discovers were involved in violence should be disqualified even if that means ODM will not field any candidate in those seats. It is time for ODM to send a clear message that violence will NOT be tolerated for whatever reason. That is a big issue in this election after the PEV of 2007/8. It must be part of every party’s political platform.

      Now now, Fred Amayo sounds familiar but I can’t place him. How do such people end up as ODM candidates? Can’t you guys see what Waititu and Sonko has done to TNA. Kenyans are not interested in a government of THUGS and for THUGS. You allow these thugs in the nominations you have to live with them.

      • Fred Amayo is the late Okiki Amayo’s son. blimey! is that what makes him feel entitled to the seat?
        Let us hope that Bett and his team live up to their word and disqualify these thugs.

    • Phil,

      I concur. I noticed the upsurge on that thread yesterday and wondered why the renewed interest!

      Phil wrote:

      “Most of these candidates have connections to TNA and thats why you see our CHina Gang thread is today receiving so many hits. Political problems in Nyanza started way before these elections.”

  6. guys

    even as we wait final lists from the parties and IEBC later next week,

    i’ve been compiling the provisional results as received from various sources like DN, Standard and twitter. will keep on updating as the results trickle in. unfortunately it appears like the excitement is wearing off and updates are few and wide apart

    the provisional table is embedded above in the main post

  7. There are interesting developments in TNA

    a) Ferdinand (Clifford) Waititu floored Jimnah Mbaru
    b) Njeru Githae out
    b) Mututho out – (lots of guys rejoicing on this one)
    c) Beatrice Kones ditches ODM and gets dumped by URP

    All in all some very interesting outcomes

    However the real fun will be next week, when most of these losers in primaries turn up with certificates from briefcase parties

    Thats when we will know the shape of the campaigns ahead. In fact Oburu should have just got nomination from Ford-K and tries his luck

    Anyway so looking forward to next week.

    Try to celebrate Mututho’s ouster with moderation hehehe no no why lie … go for it …. achidwe

  8. Too much media focus on oburu over the past couple of months had to have been leading somewhere. what was their motive?

    On the Siaya race, the man just had to lose and a win would only come through some form of chicanery possibly engineered by the brother? eii yawa 🙂

    Okay, something defininitely doesn’t add up but the best we can do is let the NEB resolve the matter. playing into the hands of the media by trying to rope in Raila and the whole clan into the messy situation doesn’t help. oburu is a grown man and need i add, older than agwambo. let him fight his own battles.

    Can the media tell us what’s happening in Jubilee, Amani, Eagle etc. Has mudavadi picked a running mate? what of karua?

    • @Akinyi

      The media can be a good tool for passing down information to most uninformed folks when used appropriately but can also be used to cause chaos and confusion as has been portrayed by most of Kenya’s partisan media. CORD being the leading party with the most progressive reform agenda, tends to take a beating from the pundits and that is pretty much to be expected with any leading party in modern democracies. Just look at today’s headline on the Star Newspaper…..”Nyanza Revolts against Raila.” I had to laugh when I read that. Everything that any member of Raila’s family does will always be somehow connected to him (Raila), otherwise it wouldn’t make for a juicy story. He is the leading candidate and will continue to make news however trivial.

      Reminds me of the Obama campaign where whenever things seemed to be going fine on the campaign trail, somehow a scandal involving an aunt with immigration issues, a brother living in the slums, another uncle involved with a teenager etc, always seemed to came up at the appropriate time to try and derail the efforts that he had made. They never succeeded because “Change We can Believe In,” and the kind of drastic changes people longed for was an idea whose time had come and no amount of distraction was going to change that.

      While it’s true the media tends to zero in on negative press from ODM/CORD, most of us here on the blogosphere are very informed about our stuff and do not necessarily rely on those media outlets for info. It would therefore be a mistake to assume that the media can somehow sway our opinion so easily. We shouldn’t also be afraid to voice those opinions simply because we are concerned about the media’s hypocrisy and how they might use that information. We have to hold those responsible accountable from the bottom to the top and no one should be above the law regardless of who they are related to. And when something is not going well within the coalition, we must address it swiftly because it may present a bigger problem down the line.

      As Job has stated elsewhere, it is parties who attract the negative news; had everything gone as planned, we wouldn’t be here talking about it. Most folks I know are weary about the media anyway and usually look for other sources of information. The Siaya seat may at the moment seem inconsequential to Agawmbos chances of becoming PORK but it’s the message that this whole debacle sends across that will last with voters, and especially those who remain on the fence and who will determine how the next election will turn out to be. With that said, we will continue to focus on the bigger picture.

  9. @Tnk

    I hear you and both you and @Job have points. I wasnt too worried about those other parties because we know what they represent and CORD/ODM was trying to set itself apart from those other parties. CORD represents the future and us such the bar has to be set high that other parties can emulate. This had all the makings of a juicy story……. A brother to a leading presidential contender who is campaigning on a reform platform and was to represnt the people………. Now it looks more like forcing candidates on the people. It doesnt look good. Where are the party think tanks. We also were very much aware that international observers are on the ground to get info and report back on thier findings. How do we come out of this with a clean face. I am not sure how much damage this has caused but moving forward…….. This should be used as a learning experience. The people ‘s voices must be heard.

    • Folks,

      I think the Oburu mess has been fixed. I haven’t seen the official announcement yet and I haven’t talked to those in the know but as I said yesterday an emergency meeting was called on the Siaya debacle and it seems common sense has prevailed. There is no need for Raila to give ammunition to political opportunists and to his rivals who would easily turn this into the biggest event in the primaries. It is not worth it. Oburu has been an M.P for 18 years and an assistant minister for 5 years. He is a rich man. He can go home and run his businesses. He is my neighbour in Bondo. He can come over for some busaa now that Mututho is history.

      • Folks,

        Now that the Oburu mess is behind us I hope it may be time to turn our attention to how the IEBC will handle the actual nominations which happens when parties submit list of candidates.

        Just as we said here before by law all nominations ended at midnight. Friday Jan 18, 2013. There can be no other nominations after that except where parties resolve disputes and may change candidates.

        Now here is the “warning” from IEBC

        http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000075388&pageNo=1&story_title=Kenya–IEBC-warns-party-primaries-losers

        I think it is pathetic nonsense. The IEBC is not in a position to enforce the warning they are issuing. The only way they could have done that is if they ordered all parties to submit their list of nominees by midnight Friday Jan 18, 2013. Instead they gave the parties three more days to fool around with the list of nominees. Parties are going to cook up lists and names until Jan 21, 2013 when they submit the list and there is no way IEBC can monitor that or stop it. Like I said this could create a lot of room for lawsuits.

        But here are a few things the IEBC can and must enforce:

        1. IEBC must verify all academic qualifications for the seats where candidates are required to have degrees etc. You sneak in somebody with a fake Punjab degree, you will get sued. In this regard TNA is in a dilemma with their Waititu, the professional stone thrower. I think he got a degree in stone throwing from Punjab University. If that certificate of his is fake he should be barred from the race and TNA cannot replace him now. It is too late. They will be time barred and Evans Kidero could very well be the luckiest man in the world. Well may be in Nairobi. OK.

        But surely TNA nominating this professional thug to be the governor of Nairobi is an insult to the good Nairobi folks. I am surprised nobody is talking about this madness from TNA. It is all about Oburu Oginga. No. There are other big blunders. And Sonko is TNA pick for Nairobi senator. This is a self confessed thug. So just within the vicinity of Nairobi TNA has a celebrated thug running for the senate, some uncouth nutcase running for governor, another whack dude Kabogo running for Kiambu governor and then they have a guy indicted for mass murder and rape of Kenyans running for the presidency. It works liek a charm, doesn’t it?

        And of course Shebesh is going for that Manzi (is that how it is spelt) ya Nairobi seat. Good luck to her but I think Shebesh is a dignified person and could very well win the seat but for the love of god she has to stop being aside kick to the Sonkos and Waititus. She is better than that. I hope. Those people are beneath her. I know they have the cash but surely Shebesh can do better. She may end up facing Wanjiru.

        2. IEBC has already indicated, and rightly so, that those who contested for the primaries in one party and lost cannot defect after losing and buy certificates from other parties. Mututho are you hearing me? But this is going to be very tough. The law says nominees must be members of the parties that nominated them 45 days before March 4. So If Mututho lost the TNA ticket at 5.00 p.m and resigned from TNA at 5.05 P.M then joined Narc at 5.06 p.m. Legally he is free to do that as long as there is documented proof of everything including resignation letters. This is why I said IEBC blundered big time by giving political parties so much room for mischief. There are going to be a lot of cooked up resignation letters by Jan 21, 2013. Once again the IEBC has put itself in a position where they cannot enforce the electoral laws of the republic. Those things will lend up in court.

        3. IEBC has to ensure that each and every candidate for each seat is a member of the political party which nominated and is not a member of any other party. So is Soita Shitanda a member of UDF or FORD Kenya or was he a member of both as of Jan. 18, 2013. If he was he has to be kicked out.

        4. If the IEBC fails to do its job which is very likely then it will be up to the citizens to comb the membership lists and raise concerns. One thing is for sure. A lot of these candidates are going to be disqualified. Some lucky fellows are going to go unopposed because their rivals have been disqualified. The real mayhem is just about to begin and we are watching.

      • Adongo,

        Word reaching me is that Eng. Okundi has been declared the gubernatorial candidate for Homa Bay county. Considering that based on the provisional polls, Okundi lost in all the constituencies, this is another ‘Oburu’ scenario. People are rioting in Homa Bay at the moment….

      • Adongo,
        When the court cases start rolling in many will be more then dissappointed.
        As far as Nairobi is concerned, it should not matter which alliance it is, the governor must be someone who can take the city forward. At the end of the day the city will not be for only Waititu but all Kenyans. The problem is that TNA must pull up its socks. But more so the people of Nairobi must show that they can elect people who can improve their lives than thugs. If reason were to prevail, Kidero should win this thing against Waititu hands down. But if your party leader is a wanted criminal, what does it matter if you are a city thug?

        Unfortunately, those that that Nairobians call washamba have always elected better leaders. Just look at what is happening in Nyanza, any slight stupidity and you are out. This is something the people of Nyanza and other “ushago” need to be very proud of.

        The IEBC is trying too hard to please political parties instead of just sticking to the law hence the mess. At this rate the nominations should just be carried out by delegates because its not working as things stand. Or the party leaders should just hand pick its candidates.

        Im glad this is over, we need to get on with the campaigns.

      • Siguda,
        While I dont know about Okundis situation, we have to be careful of dismissing others win because opponents are protesting. This is a well known Kenyan trick.

      • Mzee,

        In this case Okundi was beaten in all constituencies including his own Rangwe constituency. How he beat Cyprian Awiti is one thing we will never know. But this is not the first time he is doing it. Last time he tried to rig himself back, there was chaos in Homa Bay and he had to relent. I don’t know what is in store this time round.

      • Adongo and All

        It seems the sky is not as clear yet. If the matter had been sorted out, there would be no point of the election board keeping the final decision on whether or not it is William Oduol under wraps.If Raila loses the presidency, it is because of the silly missteps such as these being bone-hardheadedly allowed to derail his campaign.

        For me, as a CORD sympathizers, the nomination process in Nyanza has left me angst ridden. Aside form the debacle in Siaya, Homa Bay and Migori, it was a pitiful site watching footage of Oyiecho Olweny and Olago Aluoch waiting for the nomination exercise to “begin” a whole two days after it should have started. No amount of explanation can excuse such a delay.

        Homa bay is really dear to me, more so Karachuonyo. The purported win by Okundi in the race for county governor is a lie worse than the Oburu-Oduol case. As Siguda points out, there was no chance in hell that Okundi could have beaten Cyprian. When one considers that in the areas that voted normally and whose votes were counted, the balance was heavily tipped in Awiti’s favor. It begs the question then, where did Okundi’s votes come from?

        The attempt to impose Okundi in Homabay is piggy-backing on a strong unwarranted anti Karachuonyo clan sentiment. This fear of Karachuonyo’s dominance is real, but must not be used to mess up Raila’s chances at the presidential level. As it is now, it has dome irreparable damage. Karachuonyo here included Karachuonyo, Kasipul and Kabondo kasipu constituencies. That sentiment is what propels Ukundi and the Jo-Milambo and Suba crew, to secretly travel to Rongo to announce fake results. It is a fact that Raila has gotten the highest percentages of votes from this are in the past elections. being on the ground, I a not sure anymore. Folks in Karachuonyo are clear in their minds that unless things are addressed now. Raila will be lucky to get upwards of 40 percent of registered voter turning out o vote.

        The nomination events in Nyanza have put paid to an glee we may have had about good registration numbers. Raila had better be warned that there is a strong possibility that he will get half the votes he may have from Nyanza ad this wold cost him the presidency. I am certain of this in Karachuonyo and Homa Bay.

      • nalinali,
        I dont know why you want Raila Odinga to micro manage CORD.
        The mistakes done by party officials, who are adults, cannot be attributed to Raila.
        Tell, what was Raila supposed to do? Conduct the nominations personally? We have to be realistic.

      • i agree with mzee that this is a very strange situation

        with reports of new violence now in kisumu on account of ruth odinga

        if raila gets involved whether for or against its pure dictatorship. if he stays out of it, its assumed tacit collusion.

        its a politcal nightmare / quagmire.

        as i understand this, elections for ODM were satisfactory for almost all other places except for nyanza. why is this? there were logistic problems, were these acts of sabotage or genuine problems due to lack of adequate preparations

        regardless, the party has to move on within the confines of the law, decisions have to be made

        lastly why are the masses laying blame on raila and not the NEB, and the pattern is discernible, first it was oburu, now it is ruth. sure, raila can prevail on his siblings to bow out of the race, why didn’t they let him know this before the primaries

        but my question still remains, why are the rioters so keen to pin the blame on raila the person, and not NEB the group in charge of the whole exercise from planning to execution, dispute resolution and final results? what is the point of NEB and months of preparation if all that is required is a raila roadside decree?

        and talking of NEB, where are they, why arent they coming out to list what has happened, what worked, what failed, and the dispute resolutions arrived at as well as publish results where the exercise went on smoothly

        did franklin bett replace someone else ostensibly because he would carry out a more efficient operation.

        what is this paralysis that hits those responsible for processes whenever crisis occurs.

        i also must say that the threat to vote for say TNA or other rival parties is kind of amusing. its like coming home one day and find your favorite shirt was hung out to dry (contrary to your wise counsel) but got stolen, you then proceed to take all your clothes and give them to the first thief you find in order to punish whoever hung out that shirt.

        sure, there has been a major problem, so do we seek solutions or proceed to inject more problems?

        anyway, we need a report and answers from NEB and want to know why only specifically the region known as luo-nyanza

      • tnk,
        That there were problems is Nyanza was mostly because aspirants were keen on sabotaging the process. Winning nominations on an ODM ticket here is a good as winning the elections. But since there are no proper structures for conducting the election, every Dick and Harry believed that he would emerge winner if they tweaked things in own favor. This meant intimidating, stealing and crying foul for no reason at all.

        If I were Raila Odinga, I would prevail upon my siblings to shelve their ambitions for now. It does not matter if they believe they won the nominations.

        As I write, people are glued to the TV waiting for announcement by Bett on who has won the ODM nominations.

      • Sigh of relief in Kisumu as ODM NEB announces that it has not cleared Ruth Odinga to run for governor.

        As TNK asked, what happened in the so called Luo Nyanza?
        I know that the media especially KTN is camped in
        ———————————————————————-
        The National Elections Board (NEB) of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) has dispelled claims that it has declared Ms Ruth Odinga as the nominee for the Kisumu Governor’s seat in the March 4, General Election.

        “The Board categorically states that it has not issued any information regarding the Kisumu gubernatorial contest and urges the residents of Kisumu to remain calm and maintain peace,” said a press statement to the newsroom.

        “The NEB says that reports in the mainstream media and information that is trending on the social media should be treated as rumours and therefore urges the public to ignore them,” it added.

        https://deepcogitation.com/2013/01/17/party-nominations/#comment-2005

      • Mzee and TNK

        Raila is synonymous with ODM. His personality is at the very core of ODM as a party and any narrative issuing out of the party is his by default. He shares in a big way the failings witnessed in the nomination charade. Where does the proverbial bucket stop? We will be better served in ODM if we stop being lame apologists for what is clearly an obvious omission, namely a refusal by Raila to covertly instill moderation to/within the sibling circle. You as s well as TNK have noted this. It does not amount to a denial of democratic rights to his siblings but simply a reflection of a higher sense of awareness of the context of 2013 elections. Who are his close advisors? Hardly six months have passed since ODM members at a Naivasha forum expressed misgivings at a perceived interference of the party by family members
        When adversaries have over some time tried to create (rightly or wrongly) the portrait of a nepotistic inclination, the last thing one should do is give credence to such whiffs by making obvious such suspicions through such laugh lines as Midiwo’s insistence that Elisha transported voters from Kisumu, or Oburu’s persistence that he must prevail and Ruth’s “in your face” assault at a chance to be Kisumu’s inevitable governor. Surely the Odinga’s must be meeting regularly as a family and discussing the perceptual implications of such kinship presumption of inevitability. It is just common-sense.

    • Folks,

      Two full days after the primaries ODM should have a complete list of its candidates except in counties or constituencies where there are ongoing disputes. In any even the elections cannot be repeated now so there is no need for any delay.

      One of the things I have learnt by talking to people over the weekend is how much disinformation is out there. Of course the mainstream media is camped in Nyanza giving us gripping details of “election chaos” etc. ODM should expect that. So far the entire CORD team has done fairly well. ODM needs to get its act together in Nyanza in the “hotspots” and give people the results.

      How about the Raila factor? There are so many ridiculous propaganda myths being peddled out there. One is that there is an ongoing rebellion against Raila in Nyanza. Of course most of that nonsense is by internet junkies who wouldn’t point out where Nyanza is in a map. As a person from Nyanza and Bondo specifically I know how off base some of that nonsense is.

      Take Oburu’s case for example. Oburu has been Bondo M.P for 18 years and not once during that period has Raila even campaigned for him. Oburu took the seat when his father the late Jaramogi passed away. It was an easy win for him. In his first short term people of Bondo had concerns about him. He was considered lazy and insensitive to peoples’ needs.

      Then his perennial competitor Mr. Ochanda gave him a run for his money in 1997 and after that Oburu shaped up. He has been a very good M.Ps since. He has done incredibly well for Bondo but many people thought the governor’s job was beyond his pay scale. He also was no match for Orengo in the Senator’s job. If he wanted still to be the M.P may he had a chance but the general sentiment was that it was time for Oburu to retire. We know Jaramogi held the seat even in his 80s but Oburu is no Jaramogi. So people of Siaya rejecting Oburu really has nothing to do with Raila. 99% of those people will vote for Raila so there goes the nonsense.

      Same applies to the likes of Jakoyo Midiwo whom I must add is universally despised in all of Nyanza. The guy who beat him may not be any better but people are just sick of Jakoyo. Again nothing to do with Raila.

      The real problem is that a lot of Nyanza M.Ps tend to think that all they need to do to be elected is to be seen to Raila’s friends. What brings problems is when such people are seen to be rigged in. The blame falls on Raila and rightly so.

      If you want to learn how that phenomena works go back to the US presidential elections in 1992 and 2012.

      In 1992 George Bush senior was duking it out with Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Bush had Dan Quayle as his running mate. The media despised Dan Quayle. He was seen as a buffoon, ignorant and just not an intelligent person. That wasn’t helping the Bush ticket. Then while visiting an Elementary school Quayle was asked by a 12 year old student to spell potato. He misspelt is as “potatoe”. The media went gaga and lambasted Quayle for weeks talking about his stupidity. One reporter said it best. If Al Gore had missed the spelling nobody would NOT have noticed it. Why? Because Al Gore is known as a smart guy. He is a brilliant dude and being a stupid jerk is not one of his problems. In other words Quayle failing the spelling test from a 12 year old confirmed everything including stereotypes that Americans had about Quayle. That is exactly the issue Raila faces when their is voter back lash in his backyard. It re-enforces all the stereo types and fears people have about him. That is politics 101. Never do anything that re-enforces any stereotypes about you.

      We saw the same with Mitt Romney when a video was released when Romney was blasting the 47% of Americans whom he considers as useless and a burden to America. He said he doesn’t give a shit about them. That is a bad thing to say but for Mitt it was suicidal because it confirmed Mitt’s image as a spoilt rude and arrogant brat who only cares about the rich. It killed him.

      It is for such reasons why Raila has to take the bull by the horn and ensure that all nominations in his backyard are clean and above reproach.

      That said I am more than impressed by what ODM has done even as the nominations dominate the media. ODM’s venture in Kericho yesterday which has been posted here. That was a massive rally that went toe to toe with Uhuruto rally there just a few days ago. What was even more impressive was seeing the ODM spirit, the colours, the symbolic big hammer and the energy. We have been told that CORD would be lucky to get 10% votes in many parts of the former Rift Valley. Don’t laugh but if what we saw yesterday is anything to go by and if ODM works at it, 40 -45% of the votes is within reach and then this thing will be over. Tribal math experts may have to look for a new career.

      Today CORD is headed to Kitui and Machakos. We will see.

      Another thing of note I show William Ruto’s allies fell off the deck in Uasin Gishu county. It was a washout for him and to his credit he did not meddle to impose his boys. Is this a rebellion against Ruto? Hardly after all the others were also running in URP ticket. But something is certain. A good chunk of those Ruto associates who fell by roadside gained their prominence by being vicious campaigners against Raila. The Wareng County Chairman Mr. Kiprop in particular has been a vicious attack dog against Raila. He lost miserably. It would appear to me that even as URP is a force to reckon with in areas like UG, the war against Raila might not the most profitable activity in the area.

      I think CORD is sitting very well and I like the way they have come out of the gate swinging while others have literally gone underground obviously dealing with the own messes in the primary.

  10. What exactly do they mean by “the race remains open?” Seems to me these people have been caught in the act and instead of doing the right thing and declaring the actual winner, they still wnat to go around in circles. They havent even tried to explain what let to those other counties being disqualified. This doesnt make the CORD ticket and especially Raila look good. I can understand him not wanting to speak about all those other primaries, but this involves his own family member and he should have denounced it or at least distance himself from it untill all is clear. This is my home town and I am very dissappointed.

    • moesha

      i think we are being played

      these disputes are rampant all over the nomination process in kenya but the ones amplified are in ODM strongholds

      this one with oburu (a brother to raila) gets the most prominence

      if we step back from the fray we can discern the pattern more clearly

      i dont know whether oburu is a poliical crook, a pawn or beneficiary in this business

      am not privy to this

      but i know political schemes, and this is one

      we have to stop ourselves from being sucked into these

      lets identify the real issues and deal with them, but a the same time lets avoid getting sucked into grand schemes where we are just pawns

      • Tnk,

        True, but remember TNA’s dirty linen is about to be aired. Their results will trickle shortly…and hopefully media should give them equal coverage.

        Remember, it is parties themselves that invite negative scrutiny. If ODM conducted proper nominations in Siaya and Homabay, there may have been no protests and such coverage.

      • Thanks Job

        Am just not sure that TNA or URPs issues will be given as much prominence, but besides that we do not have to benchmark against TNA. The main issues here are that ODM could have been more better prepared, but we lost great opportunities for setting the reform agenda in parliament these past four or five years and hence the current predicament in political parties, we also have been permanently reacting to issues rather than proactively setting the reform agenda.

        its no surprise therefore that our lot of MPs are being shown the door by the electorate who are increasingly more informed. at the same time we must take care not to throw the baby out with the bath water.

        one thing that stands out is that most of ODM support holds a higher standard and will not hesitate to cut off non performers, yet our rivals do the most devious acts and still get back to power. check out the jubilee alliance. the “poltical” crimes of the likes of oburu, kajwang etc are being aloof, getting lost in city life etc. basically socializing issues. the top honchos of jubilee went about killing people, yet they stand better chance of governing the country

        am not advocating for complacency

        am just saying that we need to think this through a lot more deeply

        in my view, the most important criteria right now is to get leaders that can help establish institutions, restore credibility and empower the institutions, move away from individual centric process to establishing rule of law through institutions and processes.

        lets figure out how to move in that direction. if we do that, the oburus, midiwo, and what not loose relevance and we start seeing representation and service delivery as part of the larger people driven process and not the whims of individuals or simply ethnic based.

        these guys protesting must articulate whether they are supporting or against an individual or if they are laying the ground work for wider reform gains. the cost of the protest (destruction, lives, economic loss) must match the gains and someone must be responsible for it or held accountable otherwise we keep repeating the same destructive behavior with nothing to show for it

        i hope that kind of clarifies my viewpoint on these issues, although pretty much i think we are on the same page.

      • What happened to the digital generation (Jubilee) ever since nominations ended yesterday? They seem to be relying on stone-age technology to get results. Or is the data still undergoing massage?

        I’ll be watching media coverage as promised.

      • hehehe Job

        the digital party announced some results for 10 counties

        http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/TNA-closes-tallying-centre/-/1631868/1669256/-/10cdee/-/index.html

        and then kikaumana as we would say back in the day

        and have gone mute (i think medics call this nil by mouth)

        the disputes will be resolved digitally so all results will be communicated via interred net i mean internet

        the website given is at this moment in time dead

        as for URP walitema na kuenda have no idea

        am thinking both these parties will be pulling their candidates from the same magic hat they carry around

    • Moesha,

      i hear what you are saying. mine was to point out that disputes resulting from elections are not uncommon. the oburu debacle presented a ‘snake in a gourd’ type situation. we could either choose to continue screaming bloody murder or let the NEB solve it ‘diplomatically.’ adongo has just reported that an amicable solution has been found.

      while the initial outrage and fury that greeted this rumor was totally understandable, going on and on, insulting(i saw this elsewhere) and asking the younger brother to ‘say something’ about it was completely premature and disrespectful IMO.

      • @Akinyi

        Points noted. I am glad they have found common ground on this issue. I am not sure it would have been resolved so soon hadn’t there been this type of outrage and maybe some of us took this a little more personal because this is my home ….. I have a personal stake in this. Anyway we have moved on.

    • Folks,

      Two full days after the primaries ODM should have a complete list of its candidates except in counties or constituencies where there are ongoing disputes. In any even the elections cannot be repeated now so there is no need for any delay.

      One of the things I have learnt by talking to people over the weekend is how much disinformation is out there. Of course the mainstream media is camped in Nyanza giving us gripping details of “election chaos” etc. ODM should expect that. So far the entire CORD team has done fairly well. ODM needs to get its act together in Nyanza in the “hotspots” and give people the results.

      How about the Raila factor? There are so many ridiculous propaganda myths being peddled out there. One is that there is an ongoing rebellion against Raila in Nyanza. Of course most of that nonsense is by internet junkies who wouldn’t point out where Nyanza is in a map. As a person from Nyanza and Bondo specifically I know how off base some of that nonsense is.

      Take Oburu’s case for example. Oburu has been Bondo M.P for 18 years and not once during that period has Raila even campaigned for him. Oburu took the seat when his father the late Jaramogi passed away. It was an easy win for him. In his first short term people of Bondo had concerns about him. He was considered lazy and insensitive to peoples’ needs.

      Then his perennial competitor Mr. Ochanda gave him a run for his money in 1997 and after that Oburu shaped up. He has been a very good M.Ps since. He has done incredibly well for Bondo but many people thought the governor’s job was beyond his pay scale. He also was no match for Orengo in the Senator’s job. If he wanted still to be the M.P may he had a chance but the general sentiment was that it was time for Oburu to retire. We know Jaramogi held the seat even in his 80s but Oburu is no Jaramogi. So people of Siaya rejecting Oburu really has nothing to do with Raila. 99% of those people will vote for Raila so there goes the nonsense.

      Same applies to the likes of Jakoyo Midiwo whom I must add is universally despised in all of Nyanza. The guy who beat him may not be any better but people are just sick of Jakoyo. Again nothing to do with Raila.

      The real problem is that a lot of Nyanza M.Ps tend to think that all they need to do to be elected is to be seen to Raila’s friends. What brings problems is when such people are seen to be rigged in. The blame falls on Raila and rightly so.

      If you want to learn how that phenomena works go back to the US presidential elections in 1992 and 2012.

      In 1992 George Bush senior was duking it out with Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Bush had Dan Quayle as his running mate. The media despised Dan Quayle. He was seen as a buffoon, ignorant and just not an intelligent person. That wasn’t helping the Bush ticket. Then while visiting an Elementary school Quayle was asked by a 12 year old student to spell potato. He misspelt is as “potatoe”. The media went gaga and lambasted Quayle for weeks talking about his stupidity. One reporter said it best. If Al Gore had missed the spelling nobody would have noticed it. Why? Because Al Gore is known as a smart guy. He is a brilliant dude and being a stupid jerk is not one of his problems. In other words Quayle failing the spelling test from a 12 year old confirmed everything including stereotypes that Americans had about Quayle. That is exactly the issue Raila faces when their is voter back lash in his backyard. It re-enforces all the stereo types and fears people have about him. That is politics 101. Never do anything that re-enforces any stereotypes about you.

      We saw the same with Mitt Romney when a video was released when Romney was blasting the 47% of Americans whom he considers as useless and a burden to America. He said he doesn’t give a shit about them. That is a bad thing to say but for Mitt it was suicidal because it confirmed Mitt’s image as a spoilt rude and arrogant brat who only cares about the rich. It killed him.

      It is for such reasons why Raila has to take the bull by the horn and ensure that all nominations in his backyard are clean and above reproach.

      So all the talk about the rebellion against Raila in Nyanza is idle gossip and pitiful wishful thinking. It is part of the regular lexicon of the “Raila is finished” society that we hear everyday from people who NOT know any other way to understand the political dynamics in our country. I wish them luck.

      That said I am more than impressed by what ODM has done even as the nominations dominate the media. ODM’s venture in Kericho yesterday which has been posted here. That was a massive rally that went toe to toe with Uhuruto rally there just a few days ago. What was even more impressive was seeing the ODM spirit, the colours, the symbolic big hammer and the energy. We have been told that CORD would be lucky to get 10% votes in many parts of the former Rift Valley. Don’t laugh but if what we saw yesterday is anything to go by and if ODM works at it, 40 -45% of the votes is within reach and then this thing will be over. Tribal math experts may have to look for a new career.

      Today CORD is headed to Kitui and Machakos. We will see.

      Another thing of note I show William Ruto’s allies fell off the deck in Uasin Gishu county. It was a washout for him and to his credit he did not meddle to impose his boys. Is this a rebellion against Ruto? Hardly after all the others were also running in URP ticket. But something is certain. A good chunk of those Ruto associates who fell by roadside gained their prominence by being vicious campaigners against Raila. The Wareng County Chairman Mr. Kiprop in particular has been a vicious attack dog against Raila. He lost miserably. It would appear to me that even as URP is a force to reckon with in areas like UG, the war against Raila might not the most profitable activity in the area.

      I think CORD is sitting very well and I like the way they have come out of the gate swinging while others have literally gone underground obviously dealing with the own messes in the primary.

      Note:

      I posted this earlier but misspelt my e-mail address and so it is till awaiting moderation but I have fixed the mistake and would ask the moderator to ignore the earlier one.

      • Folks,

        Further to what I posted already regarding the “anti- Raila rebellion” myth being peddled around with no basis one thing has caught my attention since. The violence in Homa Bay where buildings have been burnt down takes this whole violence to a new level. There seems to be a determination even by those who lost the nomination that if they can bring their supporters to the streets and cause mayhem then they will be awarded the certificate to avoid violence. That would be a recipe for disaster. Bett said sometimes back that any politicians associated with electoral violence will be disqualified.

        It is quite telling these demos are based on rumours generated by the candidates themselves about so and so being given a certificate even where no such thing has happened. They generate rumours then mobilize their supporters to react to their own rumours. Of course the NEB sitting on results for days is not helping the situation.

        I think it is time for the ODM party officials and the NEB to quit this hide and seek game and make a very clear statement that any aspirant associated with violence will be disqualified even if they won. Nothing gives anybody the right to harm people and to burn peoples’ property. That should be made very clear. This idea that people can get certificates if they hold demonstrations and cause mayhem has to be nipped right now and that Homa Bay aspirant involved in the burning of buildings should be the first one to be disqualified immediately. Don’t even listen to claims about oh it was my supporters and I was not involved. It is up to the politicians to take responsibility if they encourage their supporters to cause problems.

      • Folks,

        Further to what I posted already regarding the “anti- Raila rebellion” myth being peddled around with no basis one thing has caught my attention since. The violence in Homa Bay where buildings have been burnt down takes this whole violence to a new level. There seems to be a determination even by those who lost the nomination that if they can bring their supporters to the streets and cause mayhem then they will be awarded the certificate to avoid violence. That would be a recipe for disaster. Bett said sometimes back that any politicians associated with electoral violence will be disqualified.

        It is quite telling these demos are based on rumours generated by the candidates themselves about so and so being given a certificate even where no such thing has happened. They generate rumours then mobilize their supporters to react to their own rumours. Of course the NEB sitting on results for days is not helping the situation.

        I think it is time for the ODM party officials and the NEB to quit this hide and seek game and make a very clear statement that any aspirant associated with violence will be disqualified even if they won. Nothing gives anybody the right to harm people and to burn peoples’ property. That should be made very clear. This idea that people can get certificates if they hold demonstrations and cause mayhem has to be nipped right now and that Homa Bay aspirant involved in the burning of buildings should be the first one to be disqualified immediately. Don’t even listen to claims about oh it was my supporters and I was not involved. It is up to the politicians to take responsibility if they encourage their supporters to cause problems.

      • adongo,
        don’t you rain on the ‘nyanza rebels against raila peddlers.’ i think this is the final attempt to bring down the elephant. like all others, it will come crushing down.

        now, in any election there are bound to be losers and not all losers will accept to be a good sport. it infuriates me to watch aspirants incite their supporters by declaring themselves winners and yet we have a returning officer . where in the civilized world does this happen? there’s an avenue for dissatisfied aspirants to seek redress so why all the unnecessary negative attention? why should ODM NEB be intimidated into summission by giving the certificate to whoever has the rowdiest mob? If ruth wins fair and square let the ‘wadagi’ choir accept the choice of the majority.

        Let us all patiently wait for the NEB do its work without interference from raila or whoever.

      • akinyi,

        Yeah the “Raila is finished” society never sleeps. Thirty years and counting they have been attending Raila’s funeral. And the man is still walking! Excuse me.

        The one thing which is now emerging is that some people have decided that in order to be nominated, you go pick up a bunch of youth most of whom probably never even voted in the first place. Get them to burn tires and occassion violence while yelling TNA TNA and kaboom you get the ODM nomination. Such people should be disqualified mara moja. Any candidate who organises violence should be kicked out and if they want to join TNA waende mara moja.

        I jusr read the statement from Bett. In some of these areas where people are demonstrating,no ODM party nominees have been named. In fact in some areas the elections have been time barred and yet we see folks yelling that so and so must be given the ticket. On what basis? Because they can organise hooligans to burn tires. Come’on.

        The response we saw on Friday were genuine concerns of people who felt cheated. The Siaya case was obvious. The Returning Officer announced fake results and did not even include votes from three constituencies namely Alego, Ugenya and Gem. That was a scam and it was dealt with. Then some people saw that and realised all they need to do is cause chaos and they will be given tickets to avoid chaos.

        The ODM NEB cannot escape the blame for incompetence and favouritism but we are not going to be side tracked into another agenda. We know the agenda. JUBILEE is right now battling with 170 nomination stalemates. Fortunately for them the candidates are not sponsoring violence to get the nomination.

        Back to the ODM NEB. It has now emerged that in some constituencies and even counties the elections are time barred. Some fools tried to conduct elections yesteday and even today. That is illegal. Bett now says in areas where the elections have been time barred they will choose the candidate by concensus. Wish them luck on that but whatever they have to do should be transparent and they are running out of time and creating the conditions for the mayhem.

        This 3 day extension given by IEBC was a mistake from the beginning. Parties had all the time to sort out their voting and should have been asked to submit their lists by Friday. Parties like Martha’s Karua’s Narc have been lucky. They dished tickets to whoever could afford them by Friday and now they have closed shop. They didn’t even have to incur the expense of printing ballot boxes. Sometimes it pays to be irrelevant. You avoid all the chaos that come with stiff competition.

        But party nominations in Kenya are a complete disgrace. This ODM Nyanza nightmare need to be sorted out very fast. ODM had no such problem anywhere else including in the Coast where there was a lot of competition. ODM must not invite these kind of crap on themselves. It is unacceptable.

    • And here is the news.

      ODM nullifies Oburu Odinga’s nomination, race remains open

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      ODM rescinded the nomination of Dr Oburu Odinga as the governor candidate in Siaya County. Following a widely disputed nomination, ODM National Elections Board (NEB) chairman Franklin Bett announced during a live news cast on NTV that neither Mr Odinga nor his challenger William Oduol had won the party’s ticket.

      “The returning officer did not follow the laid down procedure to satisfy the NEB and results for two constituencies were not accounted for,” he said.

      Mr Odinga had earlier been declared the winner of the ODM governor’s ticket after garnering 62,232 votes against Mr Oduol’s 35,198, after a tally of results from four counties.

      However, vote tallies from Ugenya and Alego Usonga were omitted, prompting the dispute.

      Mr Bett further summoned the two candidates to appear before a dispute resolution board that would determine who between the two won the nomination.

      He called for calm and asked voters to stop threatening and intimidating returning officers to ensure fair nominations.

      http://elections.nation.co.ke/news/ODM-nullifies-nullifies-Oburu-Odingas-nomination/-/1631868/1669238/-/21vghsz/-/index.html

  11. guys

    on this oburu saga

    from a purely management viewpoint (am not too attached to the current on the ground)

    a) disputes and irregularities were factored in to the primaries and even general election

    b) for this reason there are dispute resolution mechanisms that address such occurrence and IEBC even pulled out of their hat a 3 day extension (though unconstitutional) to allow for internal dispute resolution mechanisms to kick in before presentation of certificate and lists or worse case scenario external dispute resolutions to be explored

    it is therefore premature and unfortunate for all these fellows crying foul. i think this is a great opportunity for ODM and other parties to demonstrate and fully deploy their internal dispute resolution mechanisms. it is healthy for internal democracy. also this is an excellent opportunity to step up party discipline and crack the whip on perennial thugs

    however of more concern is the spontaneous rage and riots even if exaggerated by the media, it shows a lack of trust in the party structures by supporters to constructively resolve disputes and this constant resorting to physical confrontation is disturbing.

    its important for the party to clearly list the structure and modality for dispute resolutions which must be exhausted before these random acts of physical confrontations.

  12. Despite serious problems, including replacement of returning officer after initial appointee stood down after receiving death threats, the Siaya gubernatorial ODM nomination provisional results show William Oduol has received 99,992 votes against Dr Oburu Odinga 51,478. It is a landslide victory. I am not sure, but it’s like Bett intimates there is going to be repeat elections in Siaya County!!

    Like we predicted, Oduol is beneficiary of massive protest vote from Ugenya, Alego and elsewhere. People like Ochanda, Donde and others, although Ochanda is nominated in Bondo MP, should never have stood down for Oburu.

    What’s more ODM Chief Whip Jakaoyo Midiwo has also suffered humiliating defeat at the hands of Elisha Odhiambo who has a perenial rival of Midiwo for the ODM ticket in Gem constituency. Jakoyo is fond of publicly insulting Elisha whenever they meet at funerals and other functions. Provisional results show that Elisha Odhiambo trounced Midiwo with 12,124votes against 7,109.

    Another ODM bigwig Anyang Nyongo’s future hangs in the balance after results were delayed after the NEB ordered repeat elections in sections of Kisumu County.

    • Phil,
      Jakoyo was going to make history as the only MP to be elected three times in Gem. But the people of Gem have once again said, nya diriyo oromo. Jakoyo has done good stuff in Gem but he is just to rude and uncooth hence his defeat. It was expected.

      I wonder why there should be a repeat elections in Siaya for Oduol will still beat Oburu. As for Nyongo, its funny that he lost because he had a rather weak field. Dalmas Otieno has fared better and won the nominations. Kajwang is in a pickle and might be beaten. Na mambo bado.

      • Mother of all surprises! Oburu Odinga has been announced as winner of Siaya County Gubernatorial seat by 62,232 votes against William Oduol’s 35,198

      • If Oburu was trounced & is being pushed through the backdoor then that would be completely disgraceful…..I am following the goings on in Homa Bay closely, seems like Okundi is going to be beaten. The Kajwang’ situation is tricky though

      • Phil,
        You are kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        How in the world could that happen??
        I’m shocked to the bone.

      • This can only be bad news for Raila. He has just given TNA ammunition. Small things like this put off people who are leaning ODM but haven’t made up their minds. It may deflate party supporters & the turnout will be affected. Jubilee must now be rubbing their hands with glee.

        Something needs to be done immediately.

      • But again, Franklin Bett has said that until he gives the certificate no one should be complacent.
        I wonder who announced the Oburu win for previously, someone else other than Bett had announced an Oduol win.

    • phil,

      Are you serious about Oburu? That would be the worst mistake ever by ODM and CORD and it could cost them big in the presidential elections. One thing in politics is never to make mistakes that confirms people’s worst fears about you. The worst fears people have about Raila is that he is a dictator who only cares about his family and suffers from nepotism. If they impose Oburu on the people of Siaya Raila risks losing the whole thing. That would a tragedy of biblical proportions. Something has to be done immediately.

      • Adongo,
        You are right.
        This will reflect badly on Raila Odinga.
        How can this brazen theft in broad daylight be allowed?
        Then after stealing the elections he will go around campigning for Raila, who will believe the old man?.
        I still think, Im dreaming.

      • Folks,

        I have just talked with the good folks in the CORD secretariat. As we speak there is an emergency meeting going on to stop the Oburu debacle. People are outraged and my folks there told me not to panic. They are going to solve the problem. They are aware that political opportunists are licking their lips jumping on this mess. They are going to be disappointed. Poor things.

        Here are the facts.

        1. Siaya residents are sure they voted for William Oduol and not Oburu Oginga as the ODM candidate.

        2. The numbers that were floated earlier for both candidates were pure fiction. Remember 99,000 votes for Oduol and 30,000 for Oburu. That was nonsense. They were floated even before the ballot boxes were opened. So there are a lot of games going on.

        3. The announced results give Oburu 62,000 plus votes and Oduol 35,000 plus votes. That is another fiction.

        4. ODM is in an emergency meeting right now about the issue. The matter is going to be resolved and the rightful winner will get the ticket. There is no need to panic fellas. This matter is under control. Expect the opportunists to make this their agenda. What other agenda do they have? Honestly.

        5. I am glad to have reached inside the belly of the lion and make your concerns here loud and clear. They heard you. Trust me on that.

      • Adongo and all
        This would be the worst mistake ever conceived if allowed to stand. Raila had better be warned that he stands to lose big if Oburu’s win is not cancelled. Oburu must concede defeat and let Oduol carry the ODM flag in Siaya. It stinks.

      • Adongo,
        Thanks for that.
        You are the man.

        A real man of action who should borrow the Ruto slogan of “Kusema na Kutenda” because you actually do that.

        I hope that this Oburu sham does not stand.

        If Oburu were smart, he would just step aside and be given something else when Raila get to SH.

        No need to jeopardize RAO´s chances just because he wants to be a governor. There are other jobs out there just as good as that of governor.

        The person who started the circus was the returning officer who just like Kivuitu disappeared in thin air when she was most needed. Had she announced results on the spot there would be no problems, after all the nominations finished before 12:00 and were only announced at 17:00.

        But thanks for the above bwana Adongo

      • adongo

        i concur with mzee, kudos on reaching out to the party leaders on this.

        two things stand out

        a) the greed and complete lack of oburu to sense the mood on the ground and resort to yesteryear’s tactics of impunity and forcing himself on the people

        b) the connivance of party officials in accommodating oburu

        there appears to have been a total disconnect of ODM MPs in nyanza with their electorate, perhaps they spent too much time in Nairobi enjoying their new found wealth and clout, and totally forgot about how they got to Nairobi in the first place.

        i think these guys in future will understand the difference between, representation aka elected official vs appointed officials

      • tnk,
        The nyanza mps still think that once elected you stay in Nairobi until the next elections. Those are the tactics of yesteryear.

        Its now apparent that majority of Nyanza mps are going to be beaten. Thats why you see them resorting to all manner of irregularities.

        Following Raila all over the place is not enough to get elected/reelected. Besides, people just want a new crop of leaders.

        I think that Nyanza is going to pass the 75% mark of mps who don’t return to parliament.

      • Folks,

        I’m just catching up with the latest on the nominations. I have not seen/read the official results anywhere yet. But I want to believe and hope that ODM/CORD carried out transparent and democratic primaries. If this is not the case, then ODM/CORD are headed for big trouble come the general elections on March 4th.

        It is with this in mind, that I ask ODM as a party to explain to its support base what really transpired in Siaya County where the election of Oburu Odinga is hotly disputed! If he won fair and square the NEB must be able to prove this to the voters and allay everyone’s fears. But if he actually lost but got rigged in, we (the party supporters) refuse to be party to such a brazen electoral theft and demand that Oburu Odinga be replaced by the rightful winner without ifs and buts forthwith by the NEB!

        This country called Kenya, really knows how to make me sick and wanna throw up!!

      • Mzee

        We are on the same page of Oburu’s attempted robbery except for some pertinent correction. We need to address issues immediately they arise –lest we’re consumed again by acts of omission.

        You stated:

        If Oburu were smart, he would just step aside and be given something else when Raila get to SH. No need to jeopardize RAO´s chances just because he wants to be a governor. There are other jobs out there just as good as that of governor.

        With all due respect, this is the kind of statement we don’t need to read or hear about. Nepotism remains nepotism irrespective of who perpetrates it. Kenyans are not only sick and tired of it, they would throw up if told upfront Raila is contemplating more PUBLIC jobs to his octogenarian kin. It is despicable to even think of it.

        Raila’s relatives have no business parachuting themselves into government…whether by political thorax or direct appointment. It would be disatrous for Oburu and Ruth to lose nominations then ensue in jostling for other public jobs. Where is decency jameni? In a functional homestead, it would be Oburu enforcing such codes of family decency…upholding Jaramogi’s dignity. But look what we have? It is sick!!!!! Are people in this family too afraid to tell Oburu he is running naked?

        Oburu should never even think about hanging on the coattail of his younger brother…it is embarrassing to say the least. How about retiring into farming or something? Didn’t we all complain that Kibaki was stuffing government with octogenarian cronies? Hellooo!!! At least they weren’t even his blood relatives.

      • Job,
        You misunderstood.
        All I meant is that Oburu is well qualified to hold an equivalent job elsewhere instead of stealing Oduols win, even if its RAO who offers the job. Being RAOs brothers should not disqualify him from having a job in public or private.

        But the best alternative would be going into retirement.

    • Phil,

      This is the problem of placing a vested politician like Franklin Bett as head of the NEB. These should essentially be positions reserved for technocrats with unquestioned integrity (or even spiritual leaders of repute). Why should Bett order a repeat in Siaya when the people spoke quite emphatically? That would be a disaster! I would not accept such sham!

      Observers from local NGOs, the Carter Center, the NDI, and some Embassies, are shocked (to say the least) at some of the things happening on the ground..,.across all these parties. Fraudulent registration of members ain’t different from fraudulent nominations! A sham is a sham!

      By last night, Oburu virtually knew he had lost….what suddenly makes him think he can reverse the peoples’ will without serious consequences? These are some of the reasons the new laws require folks like Nyongo (elected leaders) to stay out of party leadership as well. Who decides which elections are to be repeated or not? In whose interest are such partisan decisions? Losers need to quietly walk home…

      • job & others,

        I have just talked to my folks in Bondo town. Yes indeed Oburu has been smuggled in and people are furious. They will not vote for Oburu, period. They want the Oduol guy to get a ticket from any other party and it looks like he will do just that. The ODM big wigs have done major damage to Raila Odinga. It is going to haunt him big time and Oburu will still lose in the actual election so it is a waste of time.

        I have been trying to get in touch with some of the big players who do the heavy lifting behind the scenes. I am going to let them know they could lose this thing if the stupid games don’t stop immediately. Why on earth would Raila damage his prospects just to make Oburu governor. It is like cutting your neck off to save an injured toe. Stupidity has to have limits in ODM or they will face a very tough battle. By this one action they have completely demoralized their whole support base just for one person. This is insanity. I

      • Adongo,
        This is crazy.
        I hope that Bett gets some sense in his head and denies Oburu the ticket and hands it over to Oduol.

        Oduol should just go to Ford Kenya and be given the ticket if possible.

        Oduol will beat Oburu so badly in the real elections he will wish he had not stolen the vote.

        What Oburu has done is no different from Kibakis day light robbery.

      • Adongo,

        This stinks to the heavens! I have direct info that a credible report from neutral observers has detailed dirty shenanigans that went down in Siaya in the dark of last night…after Oburu realized he had lost. All data shows Oburu was mercilessly whitewashed in the voting bastions of Ugenya, Ugunja, Alego, Gem and Usonga…even performing dismally in the Yimbo section of Bondo, and also in Rarieda. Where did his mythical votes come from? This is an exact playbook from Kibaki. Impunity right in the face!

        These idiots have little clue that the overall implication is not local – but the very premise of his brothers quest for the Presidency. The Siaya Gubernatorial primary was among a couple that int’l and local observers hand-picked for close scrutiny. This was a test that they walked straight into…failing with flying colours!

        With impunity imprinted on his forehead, Oburu has waved the middle finger to Siaya voters…who now have no choice but to hope IEBC will safeguard their vote come March 4th, 2013. Oburu appears to be going nowhere with the CORD nomination certificate – the die is cast! On top – he has robbed his brother a chunk of Presidential votes. This is just common sense! And why is the brother quiet…is that acquiescence or what? These fellas are nuts!!!!!!

      • Job,

        I had some very serious discussions with the ODM think tank when I was down there. One of their major worries was nomination. They had talked to Raila and others to make sure that politicians do not run the nominations and their efforts had been resisted at every level. They refused to participate in the Ndhiwa debacle to repair the damage and told the big boys they will not clean self inflicted wounds.

        They told me it is the nominations that could cost them the election. Today their worries have been confirmed. They are dedicated people who toil for their country unnoticed so I am going to talk to them again. They must be completely livid and I won’t be surprised if some of them walk out from the frustration.

        We are going to try to sort out this problem. We have to. This is too costly a blunder to just wish away. It has to be resolved and if that means a re-election so be it.

      • Job and Adongo,
        We all know that Oburu has lost.
        That he has stolen the elections cannot be attributed to Raila Odinga. Oburu is an adult who should no better. If Raila has refused to comment on all the nominations it would be funny if he talked about this nomination. Infact today in the afternoon journalist ambushed Raila as he was coming out of a CORD meeting and insisted that he tells them why Kisia bolted out. He refused to comment only saying that he will not make any statements until the process is over. Now that Oburu has stolen the nominations, the only thing he can do is to call for a repeat if time allows or give Oduol another ticket eg from WDM or FK.

        Another dangerous thing I have watched on NTV is that clips from Kisumu PEV 07/08 are being shown to depict the “violence” going in in Kendu Bay today. Its been done so cleverly to depict ODM and the people of Nyanza as a violent people. If this is not inciting people then I dont know what is.

    • Phil

      Maybe you should have made calls. I don’t know where the media got the number 99,090. Its portraying ODM in bad light.

  13. Events of the last few days are very embarrassing atleast , if not dangerous and tragic at most. I know that there is little experience with political primaries and how they should be best conducted. But that is one expect of it. Worse is the high level of interference, malpractices, attempts of unfair manipulations e.t.c that make a bad situation even worse.
    We as a country really have to revist our souls and ask how really want to govern ourselves before we finally become ungovernable.

  14. Its rumored that the following have been defeated

    Oburu Odinga

    Ruth Odinga

    Anyang Nyongo

    Jakoyo Midiwo

    OBS! People on the ground are saying this. No official communication from CORD HQ

      • If anything ODM NEB has ordered repeat elections in the counties of Kisumu, Homabay and Migori. Provisional results are being published by media. Most of these results are unverified and not approved by the NEB.

        There’s an orchestrated effort on social media to paint the ODM nominations as a sham. It’s strange because ODm succeeded where Jubilee has failed. ODM’s are the most competitive. Its a huge challenge for the NEB but they are holding on well.

        UDF is only issuing nomination certificates to anyone who goes to their office.

      • Phil,
        Nyongo says that the nominations will be done on Sunday but will this not cause legal problems.

        Its funny that in all other counties in the country ODM has been able to sort out its nominations one way or the other save for Nyanza counties of Migori, Homabay, Kisumu, Nyakach.

  15. Following updates at these links

    http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1668598/-/item/0/-/7yn35xz/-/index.html

    http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000075313&story_title=Kenya-Primaries:-Latest-results-for-various-Counties

    https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23Choice2013&src=typd

    Its all focused on Amani/CORD/Jubilee

    Nothing from Eagle, nothing from Kiyiapi’s and other smaller parties. Arent these guys also conducting primaries or what?

    And not surprising but the logistic nightmares experienced previously still persist and carried forward, exercise is heading to a close and in some areas ballot papers still not received, mix up on ballots in others,etc the whole shebang.

    Hehehe serves them right for delaying the exercise to last minute. Kenyans must learn that chaos only benefits the first few to get through, the rest must suffer its consequences. For a country to thrive and grow, order is necessary to benefit the majority who can then move the country forward. And order is a product of meticulous planning and timely execution of events. This crazy last minute rushes are retrogressive.

  16. Citizen TV covering nominations exercise watch it live here

    http://www.citizentv.co.ke/live

    kudos to Citizen TV for the extensive coverage

    which shows that contrary to reports in the DN and Standard

    ODM nomination exercise was relatively peaceful and quite successful despite starting late in some places but in fact its TNA and URP that have experienced most violence and protest and with lots of confusion

    • .
      It goes without say that TNA’s tactic was to wait for ODM/Wiper and affiliates in CORD to complete nominations then reap from any fallen sour-grapes. It was a tactic that calls into question whether there was deliberate collusion with IEBC. Isaak Hassan has emphatically legitimized their ploy…

      Adongo and Tnk,I beg to differ regarding how to handle CORD’s nomination list of completed primaries. CORD should not rush to publish that list — inspite of having completed the nominations by 18th, January, 2013 — they should wait until Monday next week.

      I strongly urge ODM/CORD to delay release of its official nominations list until the eleventh hour of Monday, January 21st, 2013 which Hassan has arbitrarily set. Potential court disputes can’t threaten factual proof of having conducted the nominations by the required deadline. That’s easy to prove in court.

      CORD can use the next three days to complete nominations in Nyanza and Ukambani (tomorrow), then use the rest of the weekend to “resolve any internal disputes”. Anybody waiting for CORDs final list should expect it on Monday when the rest of parties submit theirs, period!

      CORD must not make it easy for impunity-loving political crooks to flout anti-party-hopping-laws- with ease. That’s my take…

      • job,

        I think you are right in saying that as long as CORD has verifiable proof that they completed their nominations on Jan 18, 2013 they can take chances with Hassan’s decrees but they must do so aware of the perils that come with it.. The danger though is when the court cases start rolling in, the IEBC will be required to provide evidence that the nominees were members of their said parties as of Jan 18, 2013.What happens if the courts dispute that evidence or if applicants can demonstrate that such evidence can be manufactured.

        For example if say CORD gives its complete voting results for Siaya senator signed by the returning officer on Jan 18, 2013 and a certificate issued on the same day, court applicants can provide proof that such evidence can be manufactured. And remember just a few cases of manufactured “proof” can throw the entire nomination into a mess.

        All said this is a creation of the IEBC. They are playing party politics and it is going to come back to kill them. This whole election can crumble into a complete non-starter. And then what? Isaack Hassan should have just stuck to the law and told political parties not to bring their mess to him. But of course Isaack Hassan is a stooge. We know that. He better tread very carefully. One huge blunder and stuff could go up in smoke.

      • Job,
        Personally, I don’t see the reason why CORD should wait with the results till Monday. If any defeated CORD candidate wants to defect to JUBL so be it.
        Such defection can only be successful in smaller counties for bigger ones such as Nairobi are already locked up by both sides. I don’t think that, JUBL would drop Mbaru in favour of Kisia or CORD drop Kidero in favour of Gakuo. The only thing that can happen is that a person such as Kisia, if disgruntled, is sponsored by TNA to run on some fringe party to split the CORD votes. But even this possibility is remote.

        I think is better to go by the law of the land than Isaaks laws. By the way, JUBL might surprise CORD by submitting all the names today leaving CORD open to all kinds of legal action. If this happens, the best in CORD would simply and easily be knocked out. Just don’t underestimate JUBL´s ability to pull such tricks, just ask Mudavadi if you think lying.

    • Job

      i see your point, but I also think the last nail was hammered into that party hopping coffin despite the postponements by MPs and i think its 18/1/2013. after this date they cannot party hop.

      i think its best to follow the law on this which says political parties to submit their lists by 18/1/2013

  17. Cannot over-emphasize this enough.

    All CORD parties should note that Adongo has pointed out an important item that IEBC has no mandate to change constitutionally determined dates and cannot issue any roadside decree to effect the same. All lists (member and nomination) must be submitted 18/1/2013 no exceptions.

    The election timelines are now cast in stone, even the last minute changes the MPs made could not last forever and now no one can change the time lines since there is no parliament to sit in darkness to amend laws (bunch of idiots)

    IEBC had already published the election timeline listed above.

    that 3 day 19-21 dispute resolution is window dressing, risky and liable for litigation. we have a bunch of dumb guys

    in an orderly organisation, nominations are supposed to be carried out in good time, provisional results declared in good time, internal provisions for dispute resolution processed, and if necessary escalated to external dispute resolution – and the final lists submitted to IEBC by the deadline date 18/1/2013

    these guys want to do things in reverse i.e submit lists then resolve disputes aka bolting the gate after the horse already done gone. sheeeshh people grow up

    didnt we learn anything, does anybody remember that after kibaki was sworn in, there was no hope for dispute resolution resulting in PEV. dispute resolution must happen before lists are presented, not the other way round

    ==
    therefore this is unconstitutional, null and void

    http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2013/01/iebc-hands-parties-crucial-lifeline/

    ==

    by the way, the “digital” parties are actually doing much worse than the “analogue” parties

    • tnk,

      CORD should complete their nominations tomorrow and submit the list and then call a press conference to denounce the behaviour of IEBC playing poker with the laws of the republic.

      Unless the IEBC has a magic way of collecting all names of party members as of January 18, 2013 as required by the law Isaack Hassan is setting IEBC for major turmoil.

      The only way IEBC can make sure that the law is followed is by having the nominations submitted to him tomorrow as well as having the membership register of all parties. Then his job is to ensure that all nominees have all the qualifications required by law and were actually members of the parties that submitted their names as of Jan 18, 2013 and were also not members of any other party. If a nominee’s name appears in the registry of more than one party, the IEBC must insist on getting the resignation letter of that nominee which must have happened by Jan 18, 2013. If there is no such letter, that nominee is disqualified..

      The business of parties resolving their disputes ends on Jan 18, 2013. After that only the IEBC will deal with any disputes and it has 7 days to do that. However watered down the PPA is it still has provisions which have to be followed especially the issue of not being a member of ten different parties at the same time. This conman called Hassan thinks the PPA does not exist and nominations can be done the same old way. Nope. I can bet the great again that the IEBC will be engulfed with endless court cases starting Monday Jan 21, 2013. I have trying to get my contacts in the big house but they seem all tied up somewhere. I am going to catch them and advise them that CORD submits its nominations tomorrow. Let the other guys pick up the crap left behind.

  18. Adongo

    I see the sense in what you are asserting. I suspect IEBC is reacting due to pressure from elsewhere. It seems the Jubilee alliance under estimates the organisation of nominations and just need more time to put their houses in order. But it could be something more sinister. We know they didnt attract aspirants in some of the majority of the counties outside Rift Valley and Central. Even in Central am surprised many of their candidates are going in unopposed. There is not competition as widely expected.

    It seems the Jubilee, and colourless Amani are angling to fill vacant positions by inheriting losers in ODM nominations. The idea is to harvest from the fall out that is bound to ensue after CORD NEB issues nomination certificates to the winners and losers from the 10th parliament will be desperate to be on ballot paper hence the unexpected extensions by the Jubilee and IEBC. Amani are not even talking and the only news we heard is Shitanda’s incident. They are basically nowhere else.

    Its a risk that the under pressure IEBC is stupidly asking political parties to take.

    Will see if I can get this warning to one of the ODM aspirants to pass on to the party hierarchy. BTW, the ODM has issued a statement of notification of repeat polls in the three Nyanza counties that there were problems.

    http://orange-democratic.blogspot.com/2013/01/odm-national-election-board-notice-of.html

    You notice the timing will be only up to midday tomorrow giving the afternoon for the party to sort itself with its final list of nominees.

    Cheers

  19. ODM NEB Chairman just reported “progressive success” in 44 out of 47 counties. The three problematic counties are Homabay, Kisumu and Migori and that there will be repeats in these counties tomorrow from 6am – 12pm.

    This contrasts sharply with TNA/URP who have deferred their entire nominations to tomorrow amidst confusion all over their perceived strongholds. Holding nominations it appears is easier said than done.

    IEBC has also belatedly extended party lists submission deadline to 21st January.

    The ODM NEB troubles are far from over. It will have to tally results and announce winners and listen to appeals. Fall outs are inevitable.The principals are keeping out of the fray which is a good thing.

    WHilst the media were happy to amplify Wanjiru’s falling short with univeristy papers, the same cannot be said of Soita Shotanda who has been turned down by UDF and the certificate for Kakamega governor issued to someone else..Soita’s experience is not being publicized as much as Wanjirus.

    • phil,

      The ammended constitution says nominations should be done 45 days before the election date. That means all nominations must be submitted by January 18, 2013. That is exactly 45 days to March 4, 2013. Any nominations accepted after that date are illegal. Does the IEBC really know what they are doing? Do they have the powers to extend nomination deadlines outside the constitutional provisions? I don’t think so.

      If I was CORD I would submit all nominations to the IEBC tomorrow at their offices. Otherwise you take a big risk that someone will go to court and ask that all nominations outside the 45 days requirement be decalred null and void. The IEBC is still operating on the mode of the Moi days where laws don’t exist. These people are playing with fire.

      If TNA wants to flaunt the law with the help of IEBC let them do it but CORD would be wise to act within the law. IEBC has to stop playing party politics. IEBC is not a political party. It is a national institution and if they want to go down the ECK way they will. What a bunch of morons!

      • Adongo,
        You are more than right.
        How can IEBC do such a silly thing?
        CORD must not fall for it. Luckily, they have only three counties to go.

      • Here is the statement from IEBC released a few moments ago.

        Statement From Iebc On Disputes And Submission Of Political Parties Nominees:

        Further to the General Elections Guidelines given in the Kenya Gazette Vol. CXIV- No. 132 of 28th December 2012, the Commission hereby gives direction on the matter.

        Your attention is specifically drawn to Paragraph C of the said Notice that disputes relating to or arising from nomination shall be determined within seven days of the lodging of the dispute with the Commission.

        The Commission hereby informs political parties and the public in general that all disputes arising from the party nominations must be lodged, heard and concluded through political parties disputes resolution mechanisms as provided in their respective party constitutions within a period of three days from 19th – 21st January 2013.

        Any aggrieved contestant may lodge a complaint with the Commission on the 22nd January 2013 latest 5 p.m. by filling the prescribed form provided for in the Gazetted Elections Rules and Procedures.

        Prior to lodging the complaint, the contestant/party must have exhausted all Political Party internal disputes resolution mechanisms as provided in the respective political parties Constitutions and the nomination rules. The Commission will adjudicate and determine on all such disputes by 25th January 2013.

        All political parties must submit their final list of the nominees to the Chairperson of the Commission at IEBC Headquarters, 6th floor Anniversary Towers, Nairobi by 5 p.m. on 21st January 2013.

        A.I. Hassan
        Chairperson

      • phil,

        I have seen Hassan’s statement:

        http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1668238/-/aij9hi/-/index.html

        He is being an idiot. How on earth will the IEBC ensure that parties have finished their nominations on January 18, 2013 as provided by the law when the IEBC will be recieving them on January 21, 2013? Hassan himself says the 45 days limit is “cast in stone”.

        What is to stop political parties from doing nominations anytime between January 19 and January 21, 2013 and dating them back to January 18?. The issue of parties resolving disputes arising from their nominations is their own business. Parties have been free to start their nomination process anytime they wanted but they chose to do it on the very last day because the M.Ps screwed up the Political Parties Act and allowed party hopping until the last day. Now IEBC wants to jump into bed with them to screw up the constitution and give them 3 more days eti to resolve disputes. Nonsense.

        If TNA can’t hold elections because they have no clue what they are doing that is their problem. Let them do the nominations tomorrow and resolve all disputes and submit them to the IEBC before midnight on January 18, 2013. The only extension IEBC can give is to move the deadline from 6.00 pm Junuary 18, 2013 to Midnight January 18, 2013. Anything else is illegal. The only way we can verify that party nominations are completed by January 18, 2013 as provided for by the laws of the republic is to have them submitted to the IEBC on that day.

        This Hassan fool is going to end up with a thousand court cases even before the elections. Someone should tell him he has no powers to run IEBC by decrees. IEBC is governed by the laws of the land not by the wishes of Isaack Hassan. And somebody need to tel those CORD fellows who have completed their nominations in 44 out of 47 counties as reported by phil to submit their list tomorrow without fail. Don’t take chances. This thing will end up in court. And don’t forget that there will be so many candidates nominated by one party while they are also members of another party at the same time. That too is illegal. Most of these idiots will not bother to resign from the parties they are defecting from. They don’t even know that is a legal requirement. What a freaking mess!

      • Folks,

        As an update I have reviewed the amendment of party time lines from 60 days to 45. It specifically says that a person must be a member of the party that nominates them to any position 45 days before the election. So Hassan can argue that as long as the person was a member of the party that nominated them by January 18, 2013 then submittuing the names to the IEBC later on is OK. He may be able to get away with that but he shall have created a quagmire that will bog the IEBC up to its eye balls in chaos and lawsuits.

        Here is the problem. If you are a member of TNA as by the TNA register of members as of January 18, 2013 and you end up being nominated by Pata Potea Party and your name submitted to IEBC on January 21, 2013 all I need to do if I am your competitor is go the TNA register, get your name and show the IEBC that you have been illegally nominated by Pata Potea party while being a member of the TUNA party. Now you see the mess the IEBC is inviting upon itself. For what?

        IEBC should simply stick to its schedule and get the nominations submitted by the 45 day deadline and then only deal with party hoppers who forgot to resign from the parties they are defecting from. Nominees are going to be required to provide proof that they defected from one party to the other and cooking up backdated resignation letters could be a nightmare. Even those running as independents must not be members of any political party.

      • adongo

        great catch and you are right IEBC has no room for roadside decrees and must follow the law

        looking at their elections timeline (see the embed in the main post republished above), on page 2 that the party lists must be submitted at least 45 days to election i.e January 18 2013 and the party nominations also 45 days

        although they make an error and have one listed as Friday 18/1/2013 and the other as Monday 18/1/2013 it is nevertheless the same day i.e 18/1/2013

        there are no ifs or buts

  20. LIVE: Parties hold primaries

    Hehehee!!! When the going gets tough……….?

    “13:29 BREAKING NEWS: TNA puts off primaries to tomorrow; says move informed by need to conduct credible nominations.”

    15: 54 BREAKING NEWS: UDF blocks Housing minister Soita Shitanda from contesting the Kakamega Governor post; says Commission of University Education (Cue) does not recognise his degree certificate.

    http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/-/1064/1667882/-/aiip0c/-/index.html

    TNA moves primaries to Friday

    http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/TNA-moves-primaries-to-Friday/-/1064/1668038/-/13t9g4hz/-/index.html

  21. Bishop Margaret Wanjiru is now reportedly vying for Women Rep position on ODM ticket after Commissioner for Higher Education declined to approve her theological degree certificates. She had printed and pasted Wanjiru-for-Governor posters all over Nairobi.

    It’s generally a logistical nightmare for an ill-equiped ODM NEB. Its ticket are fiercely being contested for.in ODM strongholds.

    • Phil

      This is the correct post for Bishop Wanjiru under the current rules. She needs to have, and is most suitable for county wide responsibilities and is well placed for such responsibilities. She has the charisma and appeal to reach quite a good majority of the Nairobi county.

      Hopefully she can team up with the ODM Nairobi County Governor designate to make a formidable team.

      For this post I gladly endorse her and wish her success. Hope to hear other views on this.

      • Blog Admin,

        I second that. This is the ideal post for Bishop Wanjiru!

        “Phil

        This is the correct post for Bishop Wanjiru under the current rules. She needs to have, and is most suitable for county wide responsibilities and is well placed for such responsibilities. She has the charisma and appeal to reach quite a good majority of the Nairobi county.

        Hopefully she can team up with the ODM Nairobi County Governor designate to make a formidable team.

        For this post I gladly endorse her and wish her success. Hope to hear other views on this.”

  22. reports on twitter indicate that kisia has moved out

    • Has Kisia moved from ODM to Jirongo’s FPK?

      I also hear that Hassan Omar has quit ODM for Wiper. Can someone confirm please?

      • Einstein,
        True on both counts. But they still remain in CORD.
        Should both go for the governors position then CORD will have handed the position to TNA. The CORD votes are going to be split down the middle. Thats a fact that Kisia and Jirongo and the CORD family has to contend with.

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